One of the craziest rumors while I was at Gonzaga involved
Brandon Roy and Erroll Knight during their time together at the University of
Washington. According to the story, Knight went to a party with Roy and some of
the other players. Words were exchanged, and ultimately Knight decided to
urinate in Brandon Roy’s shoes. I don’t believe Roy was wearing the shoes at
the time, which is ultimately less important than the hilarity factor this
story had during my college years (Admittedly, I’m chuckling right now
reminiscing about it). Today, this story is a reminder that UW (Played by Roy) is
pompous, old fashioned, and walking around with an unearned sense of
entitlement. Whereas Gonzaga (Played by Knight) is scrappy, relatively
unproven, and has a rather large chip on its shoulder. You could say that Knight peeing on Roy's shoes was a premonition of sorts... or you could say that it's a metaphor for the relationship between the two schools. Either way, over the course of the
UW-Gonzaga series, we won 8 of 10 games on the way to establishing Gonzaga as a
household name in the world of College Basketball.
When UW backed out of our annual series, the reasons they
gave were confusing and inadequate. They talked about having a full schedule of
BCS teams that didn’t have room for the Zags in it. Mark Few and Lorenzo
Romar’s relationship became complicated, ultimately resulting in what was once
a mutually beneficial rivalry becoming a blood feud… only, it seemed like the fans
and players were really enjoying it. Having read up on the history of the
series, both schools seem to have their stories in order. To UW fans, the
cancellation of the series was a necessary step to combat Few’s aggressive,
“me-first” personality. Playing a “neutral” game in Seattle wouldn’t be unfair
because both sides would make a ton of money ($1.5 million each, according to Dan
Raley) and it’s not like Gonzaga fans wouldn’t be able to travel. To
Gonzaga fans, UW couldn't take losing to a small school from a small town, so
they kicked over the table and blamed everyone else for it but themselves.
Then, they suggested that they replace the home and home setup to one that
favored UW, and did so publicly, so
Gonzaga would appear to be the one deciding to end the series.
A lot of the hostility and one-upsmanship (is that a word?)
seemed to stem from the recruitment of Josh Heytvelt. The state of Washington
isn’t exactly flooded with blue chip talent, and in their zeal to convince
Heytvelt to set up shop in Seattle, UW committed recruiting violations by
contacting him during a “dead” period (where coaches aren’t allowed to contact
recruits at all). Washington State, Seattle University, and Gonzaga all reported
the violation to the NCAA. Ultimately, assistant Cameron Dollar, was suspended
for one month because of the violation (covered by SI).
While all three schools reported the violations, Gonzaga is the one most often blamed by the UW faithful. There’s a lot of anger here, and it’s clear that the
growing talent level in the state has elevated the stakes in the state of
Washington. To Lorenzo Romar, Coach Few’s decision to report Washington’s
violations was personal, and turned an otherwise acceptable rivalry into one
that was having a tangible and negative impact on his program.
I can’t be truly objective about this as a Gonzaga fan, but
I think it’s clear that this series won’t be resumed until Few and Romar become
civil with each other. Gonzaga has consistently put together a murderer’s row
of non-conference opponents willing to come to Spokane (Michigan State? Yeesh)
in order to make up for the top-heavy nature of the WCC, and Washington has
done the same in order to ensure that they don’t end up on the bubble again
(though they played Nevada, Marquette, and Duke last year, which isn’t half
bad). Reading articles from both sides leads me to one conclusion: both schools
could use a game like this, and the fans and players continue to crave a
renewed rivalry.
Dan Raley wrote a couple pieces on the topic, one in 2006 (here)
and another in 2010 (here),
both for the Seattle Post-Intelligencer. The 2006 piece is a lot more
even-handed than the 2010 one, which to me illustrates the growing divide on
the issue. Rather than simply chalk it up to headstrong coaches on both sides
refusing to budge on their list of demands, Raley puts the onus on Gonzaga to
resume the series, and describes Few as difficult to work with (including anecdotes
about Few being relatively obtuse to local beat writers, which Raley might have
taken personally). Eamonn Brennan at ESPN also has a couple brief articles on
the series, (here
and here),
both lamenting the fact that the series won’t be resumed any time soon. As a national
columnist, Brennan is a little more removed from the biases that plague your
humble writer, and his basic argument can be found in this quote (from this
article):
"The two teams broke off their series in 2007 after playing for 10 consecutive years, with Gonzaga winning eight of the 10 home-and-home meetings. The Zags were simply dominating at times, handing the Huskies losses by margins of 30, 24 and 20 points and also dealt them blows on the recruiting trail.
So maybe Washington offering a less-than-neutral site series wasn't the best idea. And maybe Few could have said something more politically correct in response.
But wouldn't it be nice if the West Coast's top two teams could settle their differences by slugging it out on the court?"The rivalry had an angry tinge to it near the end, but players from both schools enjoyed the games and wanted to keep it going. Some overzealous Gonzaga alumni even bought a billboard in Spokane asking the Huskies to resume the series. No amount of posturing by the fans or players can rekindle what was once such a special part of College Basketball. The power, ultimately, lies with the coaches. Ideally, Washington would make a good faith effort to resume the series behind closed doors (rather than make a public spectacle about how hard you’re trying) or Coach Few could swallow his pride and try to get things started himself. Neither seems likely, which is a damned shame. Personally, I don’t think Few owes Washington anything. They ended the series and haven’t made a fair offer yet, but that kind of thinking doesn’t get us anywhere. Someone has to be the “bigger man,” but that’s not an easy mental step to make. Until they do, we’ll be stuck with the two best basketball teams in the state of Washington ignoring each other like pissed off high-schoolers.
9 comments:
Say what you will, but I believe that...the fact that Gonzaga is out-recruiting U-dub is a big insult. Romar does not strike me as someone that can accept that kind of (perceived) failure. Josh Heytvelt was the final straw. The other WA coaches all seem to accept it. I see no reason for Few to "give in" just because Romar and U-dub got their feelings hurt.
I agree, and I think it will be years before we see this series again mostly because Romar wants to make up the recruiting ground he lost by getting beat so badly.
That said, if fans on both sides want to see this game, someone has to be the first to give in.
I'm still waiting for Romar to have Mark Few's baby.
Oh wait....that was Bigfoot.
In all seriousness, I do not want to "give in" either but I still want to see the games played.
Possibly, a way to do that is to give in initially. Start with a 2 game contract and concede to Romar's rules. We will get to POUND them on national TV.
Then, when we re-up it will look rediculous if Romar will not meet GU 1/2 way.
By walking the higher ground we get what we want long term.
Gaz: totally agree. That kind of plan is necessary to get this series going again, but I just don't see few making a deal. Too bad really... maybe if few comes up with the idea on his own he'll feel good enough to go for it.
KG, maybe THIS will work?
Subliminal to Few: must start UW series
Subliminal to Few: must start UW series
Subliminal to Few: must start UW series...lol
Oh Kurt, Fantastic job on the article.
I had not heard the "shoe business" part before.
I will remember it always, lol.
I like that idea, Gaz, but no more than two years.
I dont see why we cant agree to a 4 year contract with the first two at the neutral Key arena, split the tickets 50/50...Then the final 2 years on a home and home basis...Best of both worlds, insurance that Romar wont go back on his word...
The only people that would be willing to give into anything romar wants are people not from Spokane who lived in the Seattle area and rooted for u w while growing up. I am proud that the series has not been resumed because I live in Seattle now and everyone here thinks gonzaga owes the series and tells us to travel, how about a two year neutral site at spokanes arena then a home and home. That suggestion sounds ridiculous doesn't it. So does a series starting in Seattle where there are by far more u w fans. The only reason we as gonzaga fans should resume the series is to recruit better in the seatac area but it has not worked in the past nor in the present so end it.
Signed a spozaganite in seattle!
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